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Andrew_McKIllop1Andrew McKillop
21st Century Wire

It’s like we’re living in ancient pagan Greece or something.

Only yesterday, British Prime Minister David Cameron insisted that the storms and floods causing havoc across his country were because climate change. Yes, that old chestnut.

It’s one things for politicians to try and leverage public approval by flying the flimsy climate banner. You expect that. But no such leeway should be given to the media, as it is supposedly their job to inform the masses of facts, not mythologies.

Politically Correct Science

Let’s trace this tragic tale to the beginning. Seemingly decades ago, not 13 years, the UK Independent newspaper started the new century with the goal of becoming a world leader in government-approved, corporate-friendly global warming propaganda. Its chief warmist and green scribe, Charles Onians, fired the first climate salvo in a March 20, 2000, in this leading article:

“Sledges, snowmen, snowballs and the excitement of waking to find that the stuff has settled outside are all a rapidly diminishing part of Britain’s culture”.

The Independent was soon followed by other UK papers, US papers, and European papers, and their broadcast media, in a permanent propaganda blitz to take “the warming thing” to the ultimate limits of childlike hysteria and stark distortion using the uncertain science of “the CO2 hypothesis”. The propaganda onslaught was stamped with the “warmist” hallmark of elite condescension and smug conviction that ordinary mortals are much too stupid to understand this “scientifically proven” crisis.

In what would become a typical example of “warmist” genre material, Charles Onians in 2000 cited David Viner, a researcher at the later-infamous climatic research unit (CRU) of the University of East Anglia – the Home of the Hockey Stick – who told the unscientific masses that very soon “winter snowfall will become a very rare and exciting event”. And as for homeless sleeping in the gutter, not so many would die in the night – posing an existential crisis for English Middle Class Morality! By 2006, the UK Independent was regularly carrying junk science hysteria from ‘Gaia” author James Lovelock, a key example being his claim that “Billions of persons will die before the end of the century from global warming”. Since 2012, ‘Jim’ Lovelock has completely retracted and denied his warmist convictions, and tiptoed away from the train wreck of elite propaganda.

Always Go Further

Al Gore, chief promoter of the global warming scam with Rajendra Pachauri, always went further. Their propaganda onslaught mixed and mingled pure egoism with a frenetic drive to make millions for themselves and enrich their fellow conspirators, through an ultra-tenacious promotion of  any “carbon-linked” cash-grubbing scheme. Showing what the business press calls “initiative and drive”, they promoted anything ranging from investment and trading scams, through government tax and corporate subsidy scams, to lurid books, films and TV documentaries.

THE CHURCH OF CLIMATE CHANGE: Gore and Pachauri guide the mass cult off their intellectual cliff.

Al Gore repeatedly said, in print, “the Arctic will be ice free by 2013”. Gore made this claim in print in 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009.

And it didn’t happen. In fact the Arctic ice cap’s surface area increased by more than 25% in 2012-2013. The much-larger Antarctic ice cap also increased, by about 5% using NASA data. NASA, which is a fully warmist institution peddling the “CO2 hypothesis”, has been forced to admit the Antarctic ice sheet is now at its largest since it started regular satellite monitoring in 1979.

Media spending on the permanent propaganda campaign has been massive, and a fantastic misappropriation of public money where this concerns state-owned media. Obsessionally and expensively filmed summertime-only shots of polar ice melting – which the “climate correct” media has stuffed down our throats for a decade – are however now likely to be retreating to where they belong. To the trashcan of history and to empty film theaters, and late night TV doc boredom for the almost-asleep.

The warmists set up and tirelessly milked the global warming cash cow for all it could yield, but now it is Game Over time. Their great scientific scam may now be what it always scientifically was, a Cuckoo Theory which evicted all other possible theories of why the climate changes.

The Latecomers and Still Hopefuls

As plenty of writers including myself have explained plenty of times, the “CO2 theory” is scientific folk history and was junkscience from the moment it started – in about 1795 with Joseph Priestley and his lurid vision of Phlogiston Terror. To him worse than Al-Qaeda or mustard gas in the trenches of World War I, Priestley thought “phlogiston” could cause a mass dieoff of English industrial workers exposed to woodburning and coalburning fumes!  But nobody had to believe it.

Today, only the most primitive minded and witless “warmists” soldier along, spouting idiocies in the hope the under-informed and the lazyminded will continue to buy their junkscience.

If all goes according to plan, Hollywood icon Leonardo DiCaprio will blast into space on the maiden voyage of Richard Branson’s Virgin Galactic “spaceship” this year. Incredibly enough, Messrs. Branson and DiCaprio style themselves as environmentalist celebrities with the elite mission of warning us there is a “coming ecological catastrophe” if we fail to address the carbon crisis.

Simply because they have garnered a large amount of money over the years, one way and another, their “commitment to fighting climate change” is called praiseworthy by brain-dead media, committed to “celeb worship” even as it backs off and away from the Global Warming scam. Richard Branson, despite all his attempts, is still far behind Al Gore in “warmist” cash-grubbing so he is active wherever that might turn a penny.

Branson claims he was “turned on” to Global Warming by ‘Jim’ Lovelock in person – the same Lovelock who has abandoned the scam. Branson is the founder and CEO of the “Carbon War Room”, an outfit advocating punitive-high energy taxes, which therefore has fawning support from Big Energy and Big Government, but his big hope is that “low carbon space travel” can become his new profit center. His one-liner to critics that space travel and carbon hysteria do not seem to mix, is that his brand of space travel is (very) Low Carbon. Cited by Wall Street Journal, 7 January, he has claimed: “We have reduced the [carbon emission] cost of somebody going into space from something like two weeks of New York’s electricity supply to less than the cost of an economy round-trip from Singapore to London”.

As we know, this concerns low-orbital short-period flight in the upper atmosphere, and nothing to do with real space travel, but coming from a “Global Warming ikon” we must accept there is always massive exaggeration and distortion. It is New Normal. On the other hand, we do not need to accept the plain, straight lying.

According to the US FAA-Federal Aviation Administration, also cited by Wall Street Journal, its own environmental assessment of the launch and re-entry of Virgin Galactic’s spacecraft says that one launch-land cycle will emit about 30 tons of carbon dioxide, or about five tons per passenger. That is around five times more than the carbon footprint of a round-trip flight from Singapore to London. When the support and infrastructure energy costs of the entire Virgin Galactic operation are added, including high-atmosphere flights by tracker and support aircraft, the total carbon emissions rise to about seven times more than an average round-trip flight from Singapore to London. The FAA says that for each passenger on a single trip using Virgin Galactic their total energy burn will be at least twice the energy an average American consumes in a year.

When or if Branson’s tacky low-orbital “space” flights backed by the United Arab Emirates and their “low carbon” petrodollars ever get their celebrity cargoes out of the Earth’s gravity field, a trip to Mars will be obligatory.  Here, they will find an atmosphere that is about 96% carbon dioxide (or 960 000 parts per million), and they will be able to smugly gurgle, for the short time they can still breathe: “We told you so!”. Back on Earth however, a little modesty, or at least the prospect of lawsuits for open lying – which is cited by observers as one reason ‘Jim’ Lovelock and his namesake James Hansen have backed away from the Warming scam – call on them to give us a rest and to please pipe down.

Keeping The Baboons Warm

Keeping the warmist gravy train rolling – whatever happens in the real world – is rapidly reverting to whence it came.  Big Government, the UN system, the nuclear power and alternate energy industry, and financial opportunists always looking for a new scam. To this motley crew, we have two major bit-part players – government-friendly media and Mr and Mrs Average Informed Citizen – so well-informed they are both easy prey for the lying propaganda from the Carbon Purists. But neither, in fact, can be counted on by the warmists, as they will soon find out.

Baboons in an English wildlfe park searching hot potatoes (Source/ Guardian)

Any kind of historical perspective on atmospheric science and the origins of the “CO2 hypothesis” was until recently deliberately kept out of the media. Any reference to “alternate theories” was trashed by the media as negative, anti-science, badly-intentioned and probably corrupt. Global Warming of the Al Gore variety was to  the west what Lysenko was to the USSR of Stalin. Any mention of the relatively large, sometimes outright large changes of world average temperatures over the last 1500 years was derided by warmists  – because there was warming in 1980-2000, by a few fractions of 1 degree celsius, we have a crisis. Only “carbon effluent” in the atmosphere could have caused this! What else?

The media, like public opinion is doing what it always does – it moves slowly but surely like a Titanic-crushing iceberg, breaking up as it goes. The media at this moment is packed with scientifically flaky, superficially plausible stories about how global warming causes record cold and massive snowstorms in New York, but also that until the magic date of 2065 global warming will be “net positive” for human beings, while Mr Obama has told us (although we don’t have to believe him) 97 percent of scientists still think crisis-style warming is a reality.

In a late 2013 report, the Reuters Institute for the Study of Journalism said that most media coverage of climate change now emphasises uncertainty, and an increasing number (25%) focus on the “positive opportunities” global warming could or might bring.  Global cooling, however, remains completely banned from mainstream media, except as  freaky tidbit, despite it being at least as possible that we have cooling, as warming, in a time frame stretching to 2065.

Keeping The Baboons Stupid

Admitting that we don’t know what happens in the Earth’s atmosphere, therefore we can’t know how climate changes is affecting global temperature – is the ultimate blog-material. It is the no-no option and “just in case”, or “simply by precaution”, so we have to reject that possibility. Time is limited and Al Gore needs cash. Propaganda overkill arrived. Now Gore’s pews are empty, and we’re left with hit-and-run street preachers.

One key benefit of the comeuppance for global warming, losing its status of “unquestionable” except by misfits, psychotics and the badly-motivated, is that climate change will be able to emerge as the real subject of interest.

We are likely near the point, now, when the blindest and most faithful cult followers of global warming and the “CO2 hypothesis” will have to admit they’ve been sold a pup. The computer-modeled, science-correct, politically-correct theory of man-made CO2 causing global warming, or its second-best rebranded title of “climate change”, or its third-best of “extreme weather”, was a 10-year trip to oblivion along the well-trod path of Dumbing Down. Global Warming was Dumb with a capital D.

Gore-theory proved nothing at all. The sole benefit of the waltz down Propaganda Lane is that we know climate is changing but we don’t know why. Being able to admit that is difficult for high intellect baboons.

Baboons are in fact a lot more results-oriented, and have much less time to waste on trivial pursuits than human beings. For that reason they do not invent new enemies and they make do with ones they always have had and know well. Who are real. The Global Warming crisis movement – an example of mass hysteria – invented an all-new enemy for Mankind, called Mankind.

Also called misanthropy and being more than a little dated, the warmists pushed the misanthropy button so hard we were asked to think “we” are destroying our planet – unlike Al Gore with his personal Gulfstream 5 jet, his expanding waistline and penchant for fillet mignon and massage parlors with happy endings – and unlike Richard Branson and his Virgin jetliners, because average humans use far too much fossil energy, but Branson and his Hollywood playboy pal are apparently “saving the planet” for those of us who don’t own our own island in the Caribbean.

This mental constipation only has one logical readout – that human beings should operate a mass cull or ‘Die-Off’, to prevent us from killing the planet – which belongs to very nice persons like Gore and Branson.

Even low-IQ baboons would reject the embarked logic inside this mental masturbation. They would much prefer serious endeavors like looking for rapidly-cooling potatoes in the snow.

It’s officially an evolutionary crisis when the feral monkeys start looking smarter than our jet-setting monkeys in suits. Maybe it’s time to put the feral baboons in suits and ties, and let them realize their true Darwinian potential in Westminster, Brussels and Washington.

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  • John Paily

    With the recent extreme
    cold and freeze condition experienced by many parts of USA, Canada, the hype
    about Global Warming seems to have taken back seat. The fact of the matter is
    that earth is violently fluctuating between two extremes. Earth has parallel
    world design, where when one part is heating another part is cooling to balance
    the system. Exponentially increased heat and unwinding force invariably means
    there will be exponentially increased winding force. These forces are bound to
    unleash when climate changes. We are heading for huge destruction by unwinding
    force of heat manifesting into fire bound destructions and destruction by flash
    flood/snows, earth quakes and volcanic eruptions due to winding force of earth.
    We are experiencing this. Our only hope exist in evolving our knowledge of Nature
    and take quick actions to manage the Energy of Earth’s environment and develop
    new technologies and bring ground level knowledge changes to live in peace with
    nature. Please viral such that leaders
    and intellectual ruling us awaken and take immediate steps- http://www.thecanadiandaily.ca/2013/08/30/part-1-knowledge-that-can-save-humanity-from-climate-catastrophes/

    • DaBilk

      Enjoy the koolaid along the way.

      • CB

        What Mr. Paily says doesn’t sound very scientific, but we are in fact headed for total polar meltdown, just with the carbon in the air today.

        We know this because Earth has never before had polar ice caps with levels of CO₂ as high as they are right now.

        One of the unintuitive outcomes of the loss of north polar sea ice is a slowing of the jet stream and increasing of its amplitude, bringing colder Arctic air much farther south.

        A cold winter does not mean climate science went away, contrary to the beliefs of some Climate Deniers.

        • elderlyfox

          And, DaBilk, the Arctic ice will disappear very soon, so that means the next summer melt will need Arctic temps of approx. PLUS 5 deg C for months and months. I am sure your computer model can be programmed for that. As a Rtd Airline Training Captain, and necessarily a student and applier of meteorology, I know, weather is not climate, but I don’t understand WHY hot means warming, cold means warming, stable means warming, violent swings means warming, everything means warming, (when in the 1970s the same meant COOLING)!!, even though CO2 FOLLOWS warming by 800 years. What a bunch of losers you carbon scammers are.

          • CB

            How the jet stream functions is not immediately obvious, but it is driven by the temperature differential between high and low latitudes. When this temperature differential becomes smaller, due to melting sea ice, for example, it slows down and begins to meander farther north and south.

            This can mean both hotter and colder weather depending on what side of the jet stream you’re on.

            Here’s Dr. John Holdren explaining the phenomenon:


          • elderlyfox

            And pray tell us all, WHERE is the melting ice??

          • CB

            The melting ice is in the ocean!

            Melting polar land ice will go into the sea, eventually raising the sea level 220 feet, drowning the homes and businesses of 3 billion people.

          • elderlyfox

            nasa shows Antarctic sea ice area is at it’s largest since measurements started, and Arctic ice is 50% up from last year. Discussing with you is wasting my time. Go and hug a tree.

          • CB

            Yes, Antarctic sea ice is increasing because the continent is melting down. Ice is going from the land into the sea.

            NASA has found land ice on both poles to be decreasing steadily and Arctic sea ice decreasing so quickly, it will be gone in a few years. Why don’t you know this?


          • elderlyfox

            Wow de Nort Poal haz land! BUT Antartici ice is also at it’s THICKEST since 1954. Nasa forgeot to mention that.

          • CB

            “de Nort Poal haz land”?

            Would you mind restating that in English, please?

            Yes, NASA didn’t mention that Antarctic ice is at it’s thickest… because this is false. If you had looked at the link I just gave you, you would know this.

            How could a person possibly be as incompetent as you’re pretending to be?


          • Frank McKeown

            Well the so called “Experts” who got trapped in the Mawson expedition got stuck in ice at Christmas during the Antartic Summer. Mawson managed to sail 70Km further in ice free waters one hundred years ago. Maybe the ice was thicker than the “experts” thought it was? It doesn’t take a climate computer to calculate that the “Experts” have made utter fools of themselves by getting stuck in ice which was supposed to be melting, but instead expanded (during Summer).

            Global warming causes global cooling. That’s some 1984 nonsense right there.

          • CB

            Sea ice is increasing in Antarctica because the continent is melting down. Ice is moving from the land to the sea. I literally just posted NASA’s data on land ice decrease.

            How could you possibly have failed to see it?


          • elderlyfox

            The North Pole is ALL ice, NO Land. Asw a retired airline training Capt. I studied and used meterology. Meteorology is weather. Weather is climate. Good luck with oyur ‘melting poles’.

          • CB

            Right, the North polar region is covered with sea ice… except for Greenland, which you’d know is melting down if you read the link I just gave you!

            Are you functionally illiterate? How in the world does someone fly a plane or study meteorology if she can’t read a simple graph?


          • Frank McKeown

            AL Gore didn’t get that memo. He has a nice beach house.

            3 billion people have homes and businesses? 220 feet?

            I really hope that you are younger than 10 years old.

          • CB

            How might Al Gore’s behaviour change the effect CO₂ has on planetary temperature?

            If polar land ice doesn’t contain enough water to raise the sea level 220 feet, how much would seas rise if the polar ice sheets melted completely?

            If this isn’t the most likely outcome we face, name a single previous point in Earth’s history polar ice caps were able to persist with levels of CO₂ like we have today.

            If such a point existed, why hasn’t a single person been able to name it?

          • AdmiralXizor

            You’ll copy/paste this garbage anywhere, won’t you?

            No matter. You have implied a correlation… and a flimsy one at that. Now either prove causation or shut it.

          • CB

            “You’ll copy/paste this garbage anywhere, won’t you?”

            You are talking to yourself:


            Quote a single thing I said that was untrue and explain why it’s untrue. You have one chance to do this because of your attempts to divert a conversation away from climate science with spam. If you cannot join the conversation like an adult, you will be ignored.

          • AdmiralXizor


            You actually posted links that PROVE that you copy and paste the same stuff, verbatim, in multiple sites, and then slink off when you’re exposed?

            And in the same post, you accuse me of “spam”..?

            You actually PROVIDED THE EVIDENCE against yourself!


            That’s so funny. You’ve answered your question and mine, and in the process proven yourself (again) a fraud.

            Thank you. Don’t EVER delete that post.

            Now that you’ve admitted your fraud to everyone, here are the real questions:

            Given:: Everyone knows you’re a troll, who pastes the same three questions on every site you can.
            Q1: Why do you think you can just start over with the same lies somewhere else?
            Q2: Are you sharing your login with another person, or do you have dissociative amnesia?
            Q3: Why do you demand that a reasonable person must accept your opinions as self-evident facts, when you demand that others be specific?
            Q4: Why do you think you should be held to a different standard to that which you hold everyone else?

          • Nate Wright

            its driven by the sun period no matter what you say all the bullcarbon you spew is false and if you take a peek at the tilt of the earth you might notice something different. i know the eslimo`s have noticed it they got an hour extra light now two hours and they had never had it before you might want to put your saftey belt on for this one…a–hat

          • CB

            Yes, it’s cold in winter because of the tilt of the axis of the Earth in relation to the sun.

            The reason why there are more extremes of both heat and cold year-round is because Arctic sea ice is melting, causing the jet stream to slow and meander much farther north and south.

            … but don’t take my word for it. Here’s Dr. John Holdren explaining why climate change is causing more extreme temperatures:


          • Frank McKeown

            Dr Holdren is a bloody nazi psychopath.

          • CB

            What evidence do you have that Dr. John Holdren is a Nazi psychopath?

            If you aren’t trying to project your psychopathic behaviour onto others, what are you doing?

          • Frank McKeown

            Either you haven’t read the opinion of Holdren or you are a low empathy individual like him. Having an ounce of decency within should be enough to judge him.

          • CB

            lol! Uh… I watched the video in which he says loss of Arctic sea ice is responsible for both colder and warmer swings in weather…


            Where did you get “low empathy” and “lack of decency” from the clip?

            If you aren’t trying to project your own lack of empathy and decency onto others, what are you doing?

            If you knew I was going to call you out on it, why would you do it?

        • Miguel Dunkelberger

          ” We know this because Earth has never before had polar ice caps with levels of CO₂ as high as they are right now. ”

          Wow! So you must be at least 10 million years old? Seriously how can you claim that? You need to stop bullshitting yourself..

          • CB

            Sorry, were you unaware of the Earth sciences?

            Did you not know scientists can tell what temperatures were and how much CO₂ was in the air and all sorts of facts about the environment millions of years ago just from looking at deposition in the ground?

            How could you have escaped middle school without learning this? Were you home schooled?

          • Bruno Williams

            No but you obviously swallowed the public school bs propaganda for the last 10 years. Give it up it’s over. In the 80’s New York was suppose to be underice by 2013 then in the 90’s it was going to be under water. Your just spewing the same facts that far better scientist are saying is cooked up. Get a clue, global warming is just part of the New World Order nonsense as a means of controlling the mass.

          • CB

            Are you saying scientists don’t have proxies that tell them all sorts of things about the climate millions of years ago?

            If you weren’t trying to turn established science into a conspiracy against you, why are you talking about the “New World Order” instead of climate science?

            Did you think you were the first Climate Denier to engage in this odd behaviour?

          • AdmiralXizor

            There you go again… appealing to consensus and officially abandoning science.

            And you call OTHERS mentally ill?

            Your garbage has been debunked on EVERY site you posted it. If you weren’t mentally ill, why would you try to peddle your fraud elsewhere, verbatim, as if it had never been exposed as a fraud?

          • Bruno Williams

            My god it seems everyone got the memo but you. The climate models are WRONG. They have been skewered by the alarmist to fit the agenda. Everything (your references) your using in your argument has had the results manipulated to fit their outcomes. What’s really funny is in typical liberal fashion, you have to try too prove to everyone in the room you’re the brightest penny and we should all listen to you, It’s very laughable, well that and the fact you have to have the last word on just about every place you’ve posted. Believe me when I say, you’re a typical, know it all, liberal pounding the party line who is more impressed with yourself and what you pass off as knowledge, than the rest of us are. It’s not that we’re deniers, we’re just not as easily fooled as you are.

          • CB

            Which “climate models” are wrong?

            How likely is it that you’re skeptical of models you can’t even describe?

            Are you saying CO₂ doesn’t warm planets? If this is true, why is Venus 400 degrees hotter than Mercury despite being farther from the sun? What besides a blanket of CO₂ is making Venus so warm?

            Did you think reality was dictated to you in a memo and not understood through multiple lines of converging evidence?

          • Bruno Williams

            Wow what an ego. Yeah, guess what findings show, “CORVALLIS, Ore. – A new study suggests that the rate of global warming from doubling of atmospheric carbon dioxide may be less than the most dire estimates of some previous studies – and, in fact, may be less severe than projected by the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change report in 2007…. However, the most Draconian projections of temperature increases from the doubling of CO2 are unlikely.”

            But I guess you’re smarter than these guys. Lol. Keep breathing the vapors of global warming and you’ll keep spewing flatulence.

          • CB

            Am I smarter than a bunch of unnamed randos in Corvallis, OR, affiliated with no particular university of any kind who are denying a century of science?

            Yes! Yes, I most certainly am… and so are you!

            If you understand CO₂ warms planets, and you understand polar ice caps have never in Earth’s history been able to withstand levels of CO₂ as high as humans have pushed it, why would you expect them to this time around?

            What’s keeping you from making your own prediction given an unbroken track record 4.5 billion years long?

          • AdmiralXizor

            CB is a documented fraud. He copy/pastes the same drivel on multiple sites, and then slinks away after he gets called out.

            He first clings to this CO2 concentration garbage, and then he introduces other red herrings (Venus is almost always second) after his original premise gets blown out of the water.

            He’ll claim facts not in evidence, and then assume that you agree they’re true, and then ask a stupid question to try to draw you offside.

            He won’t debate you. That’s a given. At best, he’ll ask random questions and try to get you to do the research for him…

            And after it’s all said and done, he’ll slink off and paste the original question somewhere else, and pretend he’s never done it before.

        • Frank McKeown

          We were told by Al Gore that we would have warm wet Winters and hot dry Summers. The science was settled back then. Are you saying that the science wasn’t settled then?

          As for the term “Climate Denier”. We can see by your tone that you have a dog in this fight. Are you paid to spread your junk science? You seem like a fanatic.

          As for science. Science is about observation and measurement of data. You eco fascists would make Hitler and Stalin blush. You make genocide feel warm and cosy.

          • CB

            Were we? When did Al Gore say that, and why do you care so much about his opinion?

            Yes, I do have a “dog” in this fight! I live on Earth and rely on a stable climate system to feed me.

            Do you not?

            The science says CO₂ warms planets. This fact has been known for over 100 years. If you think it doesn’t, explain why Venus is 400 degrees hotter than Mercury despite being farther from the sun. If Venus isn’t being warmed by a blanket of CO₂, why is it so hot?

          • AdmiralXizor

            CB is a documented fraud. He copy/pastes the same drivel on multiple sites, and then slinks away after he gets called out.

            He first clings to this CO2 concentration garbage, and then he introduces other red herrings (Venus is almost always second) after his original premise gets blown out of the water.

            He’ll claim facts not in evidence, and then assume that you agree they’re true, and then ask a stupid question to try to draw you offside.

            He won’t debate you. That’s a given. At best, he’ll ask random questions and try to get you to do the research for him…

            And after it’s all said and done, he’ll slink off and paste the original question somewhere else, and pretend he’s never done it before.

          • Frank McKeown

            I care about his opinion because he was the one who had Cap and Trade legislation rammed through by scaremongering legislators. The fact that he now makes you all look stupid, can’t be brushed off.

            Science does say CO2 warms planets. It doesn’t suggest that man made emmisions are going to be catastrophic. The only time you people will look like you are right about man made global warming, is when you outlaw opposing views.

          • CB

            How might Al Gore’s efforts to establish a cap and trade system change the effect CO₂ has on planetary temperature?

            If it’s so likely that polar ice caps will be able to withstand levels of CO₂ as high as we’ve pushed them, name a single previous time in Earth’s history they did.

            If such a time existed, why hasn’t a single person been able to name it?

            Why would anyone need to censor you when you willingly censor yourself?

  • William

    With the earth being around for some time, and we keeping track of weather seriously for 100 years, Lets see, 100 years of data, for how many years old? I guess that puts our sample at around 0.0000000001 percent. Yes, that is enough data to give us excellent accuracy in model and prediction. And with people Like Al Gore whom purchases a home along the ocean where he said it would be wiped out, yes, he is a very trust worthy individual. It is all about stealing money from the working people, I do not see any other facts that can be proved, except for the stealing of money from working people to give to the communist agenda. I see a solution, and that is to have a LOTTERY for our selected officials. End elections because elections only go to the highest bidder and then the highest bidder pushes foolish self agendas. A selection day, will pick a name out of the hat, of those that want to participate, with criteria to do the job, and plus, no more partisanship, we will all be on the same team. No More Lois Lerner types, no more Christie aids, No more partisan ship, A Lottery will allow GOD to be part of the process, for elections only allow the devil to pick. Now, those in office will never agree because they are on the gravy train, but when the great change comes, as it will, one of you out there may still be alive and in a position to install a LOTTERY system for SELECTION DAY. With a lottery, this crazy global warming fantasy will never arise.

    • CB

      How might an election system change the effect CO₂ has on planetary temperature?

      I agree that 100 years is statistically insignificant in comparison to the time the Earth has existed!

      Find me a single point in Earth’s history polar ice caps were able to withstand levels of CO₂ like we have today.

      If such a point existed, why hasn’t a single person been able to name it?

      • Frank McKeown

        Does today not count as a point in history? The polar ice caps have increased in area by 25% over the past year. The expedition to the antartic at Christmas resulted in a climate change research ship being trapped in ice during summer.

        During snowball earth, CO2 level were much higher than today.

        I tend to think of Cap and Trade as a replacement for the derivitives bubble. Throwing even more money at bankers so that they can buy private jets and super yachts will do nothing for the environment.

        • CB

          You are correct! During snowball Earth, levels of CO₂ were higher than they are right now! Ice spreading all the way down to the equator made the albedo of Earth much higher and therefore made the CO₂ threshold for melting that ice much higher. It did eventually melt, and the period immediately following was an extreme hothouse Earth climate. Peter Hadfield explains this nicely here:


          • CB

            Another good point, Frank! Polar ice caps have withstood levels of CO₂ at or around 400PPM…

            …since May!

            Did you think a million years of accumulated ice would melt overnight?

            Do we have ice extending down to the equator today?

            If it’s so likely that the polar ice caps we have will be able to withstand levels of CO₂ as high as we’ve pushed them, name a single point in Earth’s history (before May 2013) that polar ice caps (not a solid sheet of ice extending down to the equator) were able to withstand levels of CO₂ higher than they are right now.

            … and excellent job, litigator! You were able to mislead without actually deviating from the facts.

        • CB

          Another good point, Frank! Polar ice caps have withstood levels of CO₂ at or around 400PPM…

          …since May!

          Did you think a million years of accumulated ice would melt overnight?

          Do we have ice extending down to the equator today?

          If it’s so likely that the polar ice caps we have will be able to withstand levels of CO₂ as high as we’ve pushed them, name a single point before May that polar ice caps (not a solid sheet of ice extending down to the equator) were able to withstand levels of CO₂ higher than they are right now.

          … and excellent job, litigator! You were able to mislead without actually deviating from the facts.

      • AdmiralXizor

        Is CB still spouting this nonsense?

        He copy/pastes the same stupid questions (in order) on multiple websites, and then when he gets exposed, he slinks off and tries it somewhere else.

        He won’t debate you. That’s a given. At best, he’ll ask random questions and try to get you to do the research for him…

        And after it’s all said and done, he’ll slink off and paste the original question somewhere else.

  • Archie1954

    What a ridiculous article. I would hope it is some kind of satire but I’m afraid it is real. Whoever wrote this drivel needs to have a brain transplant. The vagaries of climate are exactly what the scientists have been telling us all along. A warmer planet means more powerful storms as heat creates energy and therefore power. Climate warming affects weather but not necessarily in a straight line manner. People like the character who wrote this piece of tripe expect that a warmer climate will bring cold winter storms to an end. That may actually be true in several hundred years but until we get to that point we will continue to have cold winter storms but unlike anything we have ever seen before due to the extra energy a warmer climate creates.

    • elderlyfox

      ..a warmer planet. Even the temperature-fakers at the U of E Anglia admit the planet has not been warming for over a dozen years. What part do you play ..carbon taxes, windmills, solar?

  • “Al Gore admits error but claims data is accurate”

    Al Gore claims that the data was and still is 100% accurate. Unfortunately (he said) “we got it upside down is all.”

    Seems what the data really demonstrates is that CO2 emmissions are so extreme they have formed a toxic layer surrounding Earth so that life-giving, warming rays from the Sun can not penetrate and what we have is man-made Global Cooling..

    “The answer” said Gore, “is to drastically cut back on CO2 emissions and impose a tax upon folks whose carbon footprints are larger than we can deem acceptable and in addition, I recommend vast numbers of aeroplanes being used to spray a special chemical formula which will cover our skies and accomplish two things:
    #1 Deal with the carbon layer, and
    #2 Prevent even more warmth leaving the planet.

    “Thus”, he said, “what we have been doing turns out to be exactly what we needed to do after all – we just need to do more of it”.
    Axshully … he never said any o’ that but don’t be suprised if he does *¿*

  • Hummmmm… global warming and profits from carbon credits. Connect the dots….
    Of course mankind has/is polluting its environment, and yes such man-made compound manipulations did/are changing the natural cycles on planet earth, but planet earth is primary effected by galactic changes.
    Apparently, there are big galactic changes coming, cycles within cycles, the next cycle shift brings with it “realm border crossing”. Hang on for one hell of a ride kiddos; http://www.focusonrecovery.net/mattersoffaith/Return_of_Nibiru.html

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  • ken_lov

    “Today, only the most primitive minded and witless “warmists” soldier along …”

    Well them plus the vast majority of scientists who work in a related field. What an utter moron you are Andrew.